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Introduction
Sarah introduces her guest, Shantira Jackson, and they cover a variety of topics including high school crushes, baking, their definitions of making it, being in a writer's room, starting a career as a TV writer, improv communities, the impact of COVID on artists, decluttering tips, and moving. They also discuss Shantira's writing work on Amber Rufflin's show and the first season of Saved by the Bell, and the chapter ends with Sarah promoting Audible and sharing her social media handles.