In this episode, we sat down with Tomasz Tunguz (https://twitter.com/ttunguz), the founder of Theory Ventures and a leading voice in the tech investment space.
We discussed the transformative potential of Ethereum as a database company, the importance of data security in a decentralized world, and the evolving landscape of AI technologies from foundational models to AI-native applications.
đ° Article "What If LLMs Change the Business Model of the Internet?": https://tomtunguz.com/what-if-llms-change-the-business-model-of-the-internet/
âď¸ Tomasz' blog: https://tomtunguz.com
Theory Ventures
Website - https://theory.ventures/
Twitter - https://twitter.com/Theoryvc
Tomasz Tunguz
LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/tomasztunguz
Twitter - https://twitter.com/ttunguz
Blog - https://tomtunguz.com/
FIRSTMARK
Website - https://firstmark.com
Twitter - https://twitter.com/FirstMarkCap
Matt Turck (Managing Director)
LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/turck/
Twitter - https://twitter.com/mattturck
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(00:00) Intro
(02:46) Tomasz has continued to invest in blockchain through the crypto winter. Why?
(06:59) Security and privacy as the main blockchain's use case.
(09:18) Blockchain and AI: how do they work together?
(11:02) Why does Theory Ventures not invest in AI hardware?
(12:28) Why do big companies invest in cloud infrastructure?
(15:35) An investor view on the foundation models.
(18:36) Is Gen AI going to replace traditional AI?
(20:57) Does the Theory Ventures invest in AI tooling companies?
(22:53) Is investing in Cloud companies better than investing in AI-powered applications?
(26:40) Copilot AI vs full-execution AI.
(28:38) A case for specialized LLMs.
(29:54) Gross margins in Gen AI: is it profitable?
(32:34) Modern Data Stack: is it still a thing to invest in?
(37:02) Microsoft Fabric and its impact on the market.
(38:50) Tomasz's thought on Motherduck and DuckDB.
(40:37) Where do BI tools fit in the Modern Data Stack?
(44:32) Why has the democratization of BI never happened?
(45:52) How do acquisitions happen? Can you engineer them?
(49:02) Key ingredients to build data infrastructure business.
(50:40) Tomasz is a founder now! How does it feel?
(53:15) Talking numbers: Theory Ventures' financial model.
