The Importance of a Relationship With Dave and Liz

Dave and Liz really helped nurture you I guess as the emerging generation to both create room for you to grow and encourage you but also not stifle you. They are like spiritual parents but they're also friends and they've got that vulnerability and the honesty with us we have absolute confidence and trust in them. oh it's beautiful you never I love the idea of um you you bothering Dave's hair and not getting out of Dave's sayI'll get out of your hair I'll get out your way and that sounds great  in the providence of God it doesn't happen about your relationship with Dave and Liz is key but also an encouraging example to many people because Dave was leading the ownership