Yeah,

so did you put out tweets and were you building teachable at that time like in public of sorts or was it more you?

Came online had a social presence much towards the back end Did you wish you started that earlier or you're happy at the way it played out? I'm happy in the way like part of what I'm concerned about is like is this whole thing a giant distraction from doing actual work Like I think it's you both yeah, we had very few distractions for the first few years like We didn't go to any conferences till we actually had customers in a product like right now I see so many of founders especially younger founders who are like alternating with LA tech week in your tech We can mind me time like like what are you doing? Yeah? What are you actually doing? But I think Twitter started getting some traction when I started again being very transparent with our numbers a lot of people didn't like it But again like transparency was always big and I think people overestimate the chance of competition hurting you so Twitter started working when I would publicly be like, okay, this is our MRR. This is our revenue This is things like that and that that is what started getting the fly wheel going

Why did you have a desire to put yourself out there?

Because I just like again I just believe that like people in their mind we all overestimate the downsides of like trans We all over we all overestimate like things that can go wrong with while being transparent like yes There are downside the S or competitors know but like from a personality like I'm a very sort of upfront person And it's something that like again I've differing opinions of my mom like my mom will always like you know revert to like don't tell people things like you know What will people say but yeah?