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Chris Walker, CEO, Refine Labs

The Dave Gerhardt Show

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i'm working with a couple o founders right now, and they've been really cranking up the volume on what they're doing on linked in. And those otheros channels that you mention, s m, s o review sights, that stuff's easy to measure. It's already measured for you. There's not a lot of guessing. The hard stuff is the podcast, it's the social media activity. So if you put tik tok in this five stage process, then we're at this point, somewhere, probably in stage two. Positive signals to be transparent, i think repeat ability would be a real stretch. But i just love the focus of that as like,

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