DJ: "I think hearing you describe what you're doing at Lyft is just helping me think through like a bunch of stuff that I've done" He says he's more on the e-commerce side in his career. DJ: "We were almost, we almost had a dagg. We called it something else, but we were designing something very similar." The episode ended early for some listeners who didn't want to hear about causal inference and counterfactuals.

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