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Ep. 45 James "Fish" Gill on seeing beauty in conflict, why certainty is a red flag, and how to see the goodness in each other.

Human Cogs Podcast

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What Do You Do With Your Pain?

"I've discovered the actually ledging myself for what i am going through is actually really the only acknowledgment that i can be sure that i can ever get, an validation and forgiveness," he says. "No other human being on the planet, not even my sisters, my ma'm no one can really know that." He also talks to himself at night in a ritual like holding his hands as if saying 'i love you' or 'you're so beautiful', but it's more about self-recognition than anything else.

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