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way, this is a tangent but your comment about how Sharia law was right right around the corner and we were going to wake up the next day and we were all going to have to put our women in kneecaps and that sort of thing. That wasn't so long ago. I mean I remember that maybe two decades 15 years ago. What's interesting here in Canada I don't know if it's the same in the United States. You're starting to see conservatives and traditional Islamic faith communities make common cause a little bit in a way that I think would have been unimaginable right after 9 11, because in some cases the the Islamic faith communities are the only people pushing back hard on some of the the gender stuff. So these things these things do work in cycles. You have an interesting reference here. Not sure I'm pronouncing her name correctly racial equity consultant team of Oakland, but she originally talked about how things like a sense of urgency and beliefs including individualism, or traits of white supremacy culture and not to pick on this particular person because I've seen that a lot in some of the materials that you see in Canadian schools, where they talk about how perfectionism is a white trade, or the need for high achievement. And you read it and there's a kind of racism baked into it, where a lot of the qualities we associate with high performing professional and academic culture are dismissed as this artifact of white supremacy. On some of the doctrinaire fringes of the dei movement you discuss. Is there a kind of weird progressive

racism that's baked in the way I would put it is that there's extreme racial essentialism and stereotyping. And so, you know, we could couple over whether that's racism or not, but that's more particularly what I think it is. And it two dovetails with some of the debates about gender going on now where you see a divide among progressive, some of whom are defining man and woman in ways that are more tied to stereotypes about what those things are, then progressives would have 10 or 15 or 20 years ago. It's been astonishing to me this team of cocoon material that metaglacius actually wrote a very good post on this on his sub stack. The title might have been the work of team of cocoon is really bad or something like that. But what's astonishing to me, I wouldn't, you know, single this person out, if it were just a random piece of Internet Arcania out there that someone said that even some dei consultant said, it's astonishing how far this material has spread. It was infamously part of this big Smithsonian web page and exhibit for a while and set a lot of people then reached a lot of people then in the slide decks that different people send me from different corporations and institutions of higher education. I see it popping up again and again. And it's difficult to find someone who will defend it when you press people and you say, which you really believe this what's the grounding for this as you saw from her quote in my piece. It's not based in any scholarship it just as she described it just came into her mind one day. And to me it's a kind of quintessential example of the lack of rigor that informs a lot of these dei presentations and trainings and curriculum where it's quite confusing to try and trace it back and to try and even argue with it because it's like, where's it coming from it's just these stories that seem intuitively true to a small number of people.