If you're lucky, that mythic realm can be incredibly useful. I'm reminded of George Carlin's line. You know, tell people there's an invisible man in the sky that invented the universe and those were here. And they'll believe you. Tell them that the pain is wet and they have to touch it. And they won't. So there's like a reality realm and a mythic realm or you know, empirical truths and religious truths are different. They're treated differently. Has nothing to do with how educated or intelligent someone is; they're just treated in different realms. That sense of if you were lucky to choose the right kind of guide and some churches and some

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