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TIMESTAMPS:

(00:00) Episode Preview

(05:38) How Robin developed his theory of the Sacred

(09:07)The Sacred binds people together

(17:17) Elites

(19:00) Sponsors: Mercury | Vanta

(37:20) Gossip networks

(38:00) Sponsor: NetSuite

(39:13) Proposal to fix academia

(45:37) Falsehoods

(01:05:12) Double agents in our minds

(01:08:36) What is cringe?

(01:12:31) Therapy

(01:17:02) How falling fertility will affect innovation

(01:23:49) Social change strategies for reviving fertility rates

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Producer: Natalie Toren

Editor: Graham Bessellieu

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