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Seth Godin

Design Matters with Debbie Millman

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Don't Look at the Charts, You Need to Make Ten or 20 Podcasts Before You Even Launch

Apple's charts are based on impact, not actual numbers. You need to make ten or 20 podcasts before you even launch. And if you're doing the work for some one, who cares what the chart says? That's not why we do creative work, right?

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