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How to Determine When to Hire a CISO or VC
Some startups are literally two people or one like they can't really hire a CISO at that point. I wouldn't say necessarily a specific size of companies is the cut over point maybe revenue when the company feels that they can afford that and then also the existing you know if you've got somebody in there currently handling security or you know slice some people handling security where their gaps at with the VC so bringing the bigger picture like Jimmy mentioned and and help kind of tie that stuff together. All right Jimmy do you have an answer to this question?