Mariana Mazzucato on the Value of Everything
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The Importance of Dynamic Metrics in Governments
In Italy, the country I'm from, what's interesting is these lessons haven't been learned. So there's a lot of public money going to all sorts of things, but there aren't the right public structures. And by the way, one of the obsessions that economists have with the deficit, oh, let's keep the deficit low, makes little sense when you look at different countries.
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