Some of these Chinese brands are now going to Europe and especially with some of these more moderately priced vehicles. So it's interesting that you're seeing these new wave of Chinese or surging domestic automaker going to the EU. Not having a ton of success yet. But they're not even beginning to do it in the US. And again, there's this sense in which the US car market feels like it's becoming like a gated community.
With the Shanghai auto show underway, Alex, Kirsten and Ed get together to discuss the latest developments and couldn't help but notice some contrasts. In another classic discussion episode the gang breaks down contrasts in EV affordability and the role of driving automation in private vehicles.