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#289 – Stephen Kotkin: Putin, Zelenskyy, and War in Ukraine
Lex Fridman Podcast
What's the Skill of Conversation?
The reason that Russia was not integrated into the West wasn't for lack of trying. It was because Russia spurned the integration because it was about what terms the integration would come on. Would you come into the West and observe Western rules and be another country, meaning just another country? There's Poland and there's Austria and there's little tiny Monaco and there's Russia. And your challenge is Russia wants to impose a closed sphere of influence on its neighbors. That's where the skill of conversation comes in.
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