I was self taught on these instruments. I didn't think i had any talent for the other stuff. A nice yet five a felt like drums would just sout, like, o whatever. Your not doing anything serious. Then, ye as i got older, i started to play a little bit guitar. But i always, always like sort of playing something i didn't learn, nobody taught me. You're six older brothers were in a band called catalist and you began to play their drum kit when you were five. The whole family was very much like having a lot of parents. By that, i mean a band that plays a gig once a year at a bar in detroit