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131: The story of Bird with CEO Travis VanderZanden and Horace Dediu

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Micro mobility is a podcast exploring the destructive potential of lightwey utility vehicles. Using the history of computing as a framework, we examine how these technologies will upend everything we thought we knew about the future of urban transport. This week's episode features an interview with travis van derzanden, who catalyzed dockless electric scooters at bird in california back in 20 17. He and horace discuss megatrins and micromobility and why, in their view, the industry still hasn't produceda bike or scooter as impacful as the ee phone. They also talk about mudel innovation and micro mability and the checken and egg

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