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EP 228 — Ann Pirruccello: What is Zen?

Spirit Gym with Paul Chek

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Is There a Mindfulness Approach to Mindfulness?

I can see from our conversation that it takes quite a long time as a Zen practitioner to really be able to fully understand embrace and kind of live Zen. It's, it's really the vision I get is being a martial artist who's fighting blindfold blindfolded. You know, there's nothing there but there's definitely something there because it can hurt you. To be able to be an effective martial artist with your eyes closed, you have to do a lot of practice  and development of your perceptual apparatus. And so, just like it takes, you know, someone who's spent a lot of years in Zen would walk through a forest and be aware of a lot more than

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