I really like sort of biological analogies in business. And so my brother, who was my co-founder there, left before me even and started a company taking public data. So he actually did YC before me one year prior. It's called BuildZoom. It's kind of the Flexport of remodeling. I tagged along with him, came to Palo Alto. But we were kind of spiritual co-founders helping each other with our businesses in a way.

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