
UFO Expert On Military Whistleblower & His Alien Encounters
Camp Gagnon
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How to Reconcile Trauma and Your Own Journey
"I've heard people speculate when I when I spoke with Jay I started doing a little bit more research and obviously his experiences were very sort of dramatic and intense just like full abduction and things like that," she says. "You can tell the difference because you've been in both yes I see yeah yeah and I've definitely considered all those things sure, on my best."
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