i declined advertising on this we can start up, because i didn't like the way they were doing their messaging. One of my companies used it, and they had a very bad experience. Cap chase is raising money at some ridiculous valuation that none of us col afford. I believe they've only raised a pretty large seed round. They raised a big credit facility for investing in maybe we did. You get our beaks wet? This are the guys that are in pipe il.

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