The Final Boss Battle, Right?

"This isn't a kinetic war. I think personally, I think kinetic wars between nation states are a thing of the past and the invention of nuclear bombs," he says. "It's not a battle to kill people. It's a battle to win over people's minds, right? And that's essentially what we're going through right now." He adds: "We have even more power than them. We just have to get our hands dirty ... Even if we get sacrificed".