
Joshua Yaffa on What’s Next for Ukraine
The New Yorker Radio Hour
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Is There Any Sense of Casualties in Ukraine?
"The overall human toll, which I think remains impossible to estimate," says Peter Bergen. "We only see in really grim, tragic, scattershot ways like the story of Mariopa", he adds. The children's ombudz woman in Russia was talking about how Ukrainian children evacuated have changed their views on Putin and now love him.
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