Roxanne Jones: People tend to be hard to teach, how do you teach grit to pessimists? And then two, in your research, I think you've talked about how they did not spend time on the decision made that last week or what might have been. Like what I'd love to hear a little bit more about those two topics. All right. Well, that ties to two other traits that I was going to ask you about related to grit. So one is, one is optimism. You know, my advisor, Marty Seligman, my PhD advisor was famous for his work on optimism. He said there's an optimistic way of explaining, especially bad events that happened

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