Dinner Talks Amidst Societal Reflection

This episode covers the key actions and achievements of the Trump administration, focusing on immigration enforcement, deportations, and the administration's stance on sanctuary cities. The discussion dives into the impacts of these policies, including the handling of illegal immigrants with criminal backgrounds and the effect of sanctuary policies on local communities. The conversation also touches on broader topics like voter ID laws, the World Health Organization, and energy policies. Additionally, we explore the administration's efforts to dismantle DEI programs and promote merit-based initiatives.

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Malcolm Collins: [00:00:00] Hello, Simone. In this episode, we are going to be going through just a a summation for anyone who has been out of the picture of all of the major things that the Trump administration has been implementing. It has, from an outsider's perspective, just been win after win after win. I have been incredibly like, wow.

Like I didn't even know it was possible for a president to be this effective. And we are going to start with ICE. So ICE has made an average of 710 immigration arrests daily for the first few days of Trump's term. This is up from 311 under president Biden. Now, I am going to be showing you a series of videos about the types of people who are being arrested under this.

And so two things here, right? So first,

Speaker: And they say, you know, oh, this law, we need to be able to deport people who have committed violent crimes.

That is the law of the land presently.

for I [00:01:00] knew that even though some of you supported us, some others were looking at me and thinking, You're a liar!

You're a liar!

Simone Collins: Okay.

Malcolm Collins: Except when you actually see the people being arrested, it not only isn't criminals, but it's criminals who have obviously had the government covering for them.

I mean, if you are an illegal immigrant to the United States, and the government knows you're an illegal immigrant, and you've had 17 previous conventions. Seventeen! Seventeen. Is one guy. And this guy thanked Biden. He thanked Obama. You know, the government is clearly covering for you at this point, right?

Like this is not normal.

Speaker 14: I'm not going back to Haiti. One of those threats is this illegal alien from Haiti.

Speaker 12: I says he's a gang member with 17 criminal convictions in recent years. You feel me? You're fighting forever, bro. Thank Obama for everything that he did for me.

Malcolm Collins: And I'd like you to consider all of these people, you know, in the context of the Jan six protesters [00:02:00] who, you know, in a peaceful protest were arrested because some people was in the protests were violent. That is broadly what happened at that protest.

And I would like to edify those of you who still happen to be misinformed about what happened that day. There was no way for the vast majority of protesters to know they were not allowed inside the building. In fact, all evidence to them, given that we now have video of the Capitol guards giving tours of the Capitol building to the protesters, every bit of evidence would have suggested that they were allowed in there and that the Capitol guards had let people in there.

And that they have been in jail.

They had families, kids at home for four years. Okay. Jobs. Do you know what that does to your career? Do you know what that does to your family? When you have a especially a stay at home wife and like four kids, like as some of them did, like this is horrifying that this sort of political prisoner banana republic situation with allowed.

Now you look at what they have been protecting and allowing. Okay. And so if you want to react to some of these

Speaker 12: Within moments, the [00:03:00] officers are on the move with eyes on their first target. Looks like we got movement target vehicle coming up.

They quickly take him into custody. He's an MS 13 gang member wanted in El Salvador for aggravated murder. Okay. and he has an interpol red notice out for his arrest.

Malcolm Collins: Oh my gosh. Yeah, El Salvador wants this guy back for murder. So there was

Simone Collins: like, there's an open warrant.

out for him and he's just walking around in the U. S. Oh

Malcolm Collins: yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 12: Ice Boston quickly takes down its next targets, including this illegal alien from Brazil, who has an interpol red notice for armed robbery. This Salvadoran illegal alien charged locally with rape and released by a sanctuary jurisdiction and this Dominican illegal alien charged with assault with a deadly weapon.

And heroin trafficking

Simone Collins: Oh, This is concerning. So do we just [00:04:00] not honor like warrants for people?

Like what's going on here? No, it's that

Malcolm Collins: the government actively, if you are the right skin color, they will actively attempt to protect you no matter what you have done. So if this were a white citizen,

Simone Collins: do

Malcolm Collins: you think they would have been arrested? 1, 000%. If they were a white legal citizen, they would have been arrested.

This is 100 percent about a multi tiered society of rights. If you are one skin color, one class you get a and keep in mind, this isn't for every one of these skin colors. If you have to fit in these certain categories, like, oh, you know, illegal immigrant or something like that.

Sorry, I should clarify here that the Democrats do control the black ethnic identity. So if you do anything undemocratic, it gets revoked. So for example, if you are leading the Proud Boys, for example, your black card is completely revoked and now

You're a white supremacist because apparently white supremacist just means anyone who does not go along with whatever the authoritarians tell them.

You get these debit cards that pay for your lifestyle.

You get your housing paid for. [00:05:00] You can rape people all you want. You can be in gangs, you can be in, none of the laws apply to you. If you are a working person in the United States and you go on a peaceful protest, you can be in jail for four years. This is a society, and as I've said this, this will be remembered alongside the Jim Crow laws.

This is a society where Your human dignity, the amount that society is supposed to affirm you, is determined by your ethnicity your immigration status, your, I mean, imagine if one of these people was trans, right? They're definitely not going to jail. So, Here's one

Speaker 12: officers also arrested this Guatemalan MS 13 gang member facing gun charges. ICE says he was released from local custody just the day before their detainer request was ignored because of sanctuary policies

Malcolm Collins: He was actually even released from local custody the day before, and they had denied the detainer request from, from ICE, saying, hey, let us know where you're releasing this guy. [00:06:00] Oh. So that we can pick him up. Gun charges and a known MS 13 gang member. This is one of the most dangerous gangs in the United States.

They are actively supporting the gangs over helping American citizens at this point. We need massive clean out. And there was another incident here of

Speaker 12: We also learned after we were done filming that ice picked up another target on the other side of the city.

This was a previously deported Honduran illegal alien who was arrested locally and is facing charges for raping a woman while holding a gun in her mouth.

Malcolm Collins: And the police were protecting him.

Simone Collins: Oh, wow. That, that, I wish, I wish we could, are there interviews with these people, like, justifying why they did this? I want to under, I really, really want to understand, like, what their perception of reality, like, do they, do they believe that these [00:07:00] charges are not true, perhaps?

Do they, like, I just want to understand how they could be allowing this to happen.

Malcolm Collins: They 100 percent believe the charges are true. A lot of they, they were involved in a lot of the charges. These are local police departments. They just Do you think this is

Simone Collins: similar to the grooming gangs? Where it was like, well, we don't want to cause a race riot.

No,

Malcolm Collins: it's not even that they don't want to cause a race riot. If you believe that, that is a lie. Yeah, like you've bought into the lie already. It's just, I want to understand

Simone Collins: what these people are thinking because I'm telling you

Malcolm Collins: what they believe. They believe that if you are a certain skin color, you should be allowed to grape with impunity.

No, I, I just

Simone Collins: don't think people believe that. That's, that's crazy. That's the highest degree.

Malcolm Collins: Simone, because I think that you're, you're buying into their BS. Okay. They believe very, very, very strongly of this. So they might say, if you worded it to them, grape with impunity, they'd be like, I don't believe that.

And then we'd be like, here is a person who was like caught graping. Do you believe that the state should have the right to [00:08:00] imprison them? They'd say no. Do you believe that the state should have the right to punish them? They'd say no. Because of their skin color. Because they'd say like, oh well, you know, that's the way it works.

And, and, and, and, you know, this is the way it always is. With, with, with this sort of like Jim Crow stuff. With this sort of, you know, different laws for different ethnicities. And if you look at this, you know, you can look at the Selena Gomez. Did you see her crying thing? No, the actress? Yeah, where she put out this crying video about how my people are being rounded up and then she deleted it.

Speaker 20: I just want to say that I'm so sorry. All my people are getting attacked. The

Malcolm Collins: And here I can only guess, why are you, why are you protecting the grapists here? Like, they're like, oh, it's innocent people. And it's like, well, why are there these people with 17 convictions of it's innocent people? You know, if you cared about the innocent people, you should have been getting rid of these people.

Because these people were in the shelters with the innocent people. [00:09:00] You didn't care about the innocent people. But I get you, Selena Gomez, your people, you're P. Diddy's people, right? You're in it with all the grape ists, right? You just can't wait to get the grape in again, can ya? Just a day away from grape.

You're like, people can't resist going on a grape tour of the U. S. Well, why can't I do that? That's, that's Selena Gomez's people. And if you look at the, the, the cities in the US, like the Bambi Larson, who was murdered by an illegal immigrant who had six retainer requests, this means that I said, said, hey, can we take this person out?

Can we take this person out? And these, what do you call them? Sanctuary city. If they're saying, no, we won't let you.

So, in California, major cities like this, you know, not just people are dying. People are, are, are committing homicide. People are committing great. People are committing arson and they're being protected by the local jails.

And you know what happens as a result of this, because I still needs to operate in these cities. There's still ice people in these cities. This is why innocent. people are innocent as they [00:10:00] are. I mean, being an illegal immigrant is a crime. Are the ones being picked up in these cities because we can't get the people in the jails.

ICE is asking you for the people in the jails. You're saying no. When you say no to the people in the jails, you force your local ICE to go to the people who are lower down their list.

Simone Collins: The

Malcolm Collins: people in their homes. Wow. This is, this is whenever you hear of an innocent person being deported, that is because of the sanctuary laws.

Ask your, I know, ask, ask, what city are they in? Almost every single time you will see they were in a sanctuary city.

Simone Collins: Really? Gosh, okay.

Malcolm Collins: Yeah. And, and when we talk about things like voter ID and stuff like that and how corrupt this whole system is there's been a, a, a fake draft of

But

you

know, you know,

Republicans always lose them, right?

The real numbers are almost as bad of the 49 states called as of November 8th. [00:11:00] Harris won 19, including only seven with voter ID statutes. Okay. Whereas of the 30 states that Trump won , 28 had voter ID statutes.

Simone Collins: Oh Lord.

Malcolm Collins: You basically cannot win in a, because I mean, there's no reason you would have that.

That's like an insane thing. It just prevents Republicans from winning, but let's talk about the whole Columbia debacle, because I loved this. This was hilarious. Trump sends down two big military planes full of illegal immigrants, okay?

And the Colombian president, you know, trying to act all tough sends him back. And Trump says, okay, you want to play tough, buddy? We're going to do a 25 percent starting today tariff on all Colombian goods.

It goes up to 50 percent next week. Everyone who's connected to your family immediately loses any protection in the United States. Visas in the United States. And we're doing all these overturns on stuff. I, I, what were some of the other things he did? I, I can't remember [00:12:00] them all. It was a lot.

Simone Collins: With Columbia.

Malcolm Collins: Yeah.

Simone Collins: I mean, the biggest thing was that Trump was like, well, all right, well, I hope you enjoy

Malcolm Collins: tariffs and travel bans. He did travel bans on Columbia. He did yeah, he was going

Simone Collins: to basically slap. He was going to make an example of Columbia because one, it would be really bad if precedent was set. That countries could just refuse to receive their citizens back.

And Trump really stomped down on that really quickly. And then the next thing you know, the Colombian president is offering to fly over the presidential plane to pick up

Malcolm Collins: people. I love that. What a simp was his tail between his legs. Presidential plane to pick up the immigrants after that. I mean, Trump knows what he's doing this time.

The Colombian president

Simone Collins: was also making a politically savvy move by basically saying like, Oh, you know, the United States is sending these people over handcuffed and, you know, uncomfortable and [00:13:00] treating them terribly. I'm going to treat them great. Oh, hold on. Let's see what he had to say.

Malcolm Collins: About the people who did come over.

Okay. Okay. He goes this was recently after he did accept them. He goes, they're, they are not criminals. Being a migrant is not a crime. And I'm like, oh, okay. Being an illegal migrant is not a crime. If they're asylum seekers, Mr. President. Are you saying that they are asylum seekers?

Are you saying that you have turned your country into such a sh hole? Or that they are so afraid of you and your government that it's not a crime that they're illegal immigrants? Oh, oh, you're not saying that? Then yeah, it absolutely is a crime, sir. And we know from the other stat that they likely are criminals.

My bet is you just made this up. Up, because you seem like a really shitty person and your own country thinks that. That's why your polling is so low. [00:14:00] Sorry. Ouch.

Simone Collins: You

gotta twist the microphone. Of

Malcolm Collins: Americans, 65 percent of Americans are strongly in favor of deporting illegal immigrants who have been convicted of a violent crime.

Well, yeah! Are somewhat in favor

Simone Collins: when also the evidence really backs this up. Near the, the end of last year, there was some really great subsequent posts. I think even Scott Alexander did one on crime and punishment and what actually lowers levels of crime. And what I came away from all this reading was basically Deterrents don't really work, you know, threatening jail doesn't really work, but removing people from the population can make us somewhere a safer place.

And there's something about deportation of anyone who commits any kind of crime, just so great because it's, it's not like they're even in prison. We're not paying for them to be in prison. They're just not here anymore. And that's kind of the most important thing. With criminals isn't [00:15:00] really what happens to them.

Like if we're talking about the well being of a state, right? And these are people and everyone matters, blah, blah, blah, right? But like, if we're only talking about the well being of a community, the only thing that matters is, is the criminal here or is the criminal not here? And not here is what you want.

It doesn't matter if they're being punished or trained or you know, taught or given more resources. No, you just really don't want them to be here anymore. Especially if they're a repeat offender, in which case, yeah. So, this is great. I mean, deportations are amazing. You know, they're not rotting in jail.

Malcolm Collins: But I'd also point out how rare this ideology is that has taken over our government and our you know, court system. If you look at the amount of Americans who are in favor of deporting illegal immigrants who are convicted of a violent crime 65 percent strongly in favor, 18 percent somewhat in favor, 10 percent neither oppose or are in favor, only 4 percent oppose.

Only 4 percent oppose this. And yet this was the law of [00:16:00] our land under the Biden administration. If you do not think when you're like regular Democrats, it's like, well, regular Democrats don't represent the portion of the party in the deep state or that control the democratic party apparatus anymore. And there's been some recent news around NYC fixing itself, by the way.

And I can put some clips here.

Speaker 30: So, as of October 31st, New York had 212 asylum shelters scattered throughout the city, but it looks like that's about to change. As the city just did a major 180 and announced plans to shut 25 of them.

Speaker 31: NewsNAtion is now confirming some Migrants are starting to leave on their own, attempting to self deport ahead of the second Trump presidency.

Speaker 34: At the peak, 17 months ago, the city was welcoming 4, 000 migrants per week, but things have dramatically changed. Last week, less than 400 showed up, and about 1, 000 left.

Speaker 35: Migrants who are going through their asylum proceedings are actually cutting things short on their own,

Speaker 30: this city is about to become a battleground where a civil war of [00:17:00] sorts over immigration will break out. As the mayor tries to carry out policies the majority now say they're in favor of without the approval of local lawmakers who are proud of our sanctuary city status and will stop at nothing to make sure it survives even if it doesn't actually help people.

Because law abiding immigrants, which include asylum seekers with a legal right to remain in America while their court case plays out, do not benefit from a sanctuary city. They can reside anywhere they want without fear. But that's not the case for gang members, criminals, terror, watch lists, suspects,

Malcolm Collins: But nature is healing which is to say that the NYC system is shutting down the shelters. I mean, they were a sanctuary state, right? And what people don't understand is, is if you are a legal immigrant, you don't need to be in a sanctuary state. You know, if you're not like MNS 13, if you're not a violent criminal, you don't need to be in one of these places.

And so, these were only places for people who broke the law. And so it created essentially grape houses. I don't know what to call them other than that. When you went to one of these New York shelters, that's what you were going in for because they were controlled by [00:18:00] the gangs. You know, they were controlled by these really bad people who New York was protecting because again, they had developed these systems that, that were just built on the systematic dehumanization of people based on their ethnicity.

Awful. Now let's talk about other things he's done, right? Some other fun, fun, fun stuff. He initiated steps to withdraw from the World Health Organization,

which as we know from you know, any evidence on this is basically a Chinese organization at this point. We saw this during COVID. We saw this was the COVID coverup. It was horrifying. He criticized Ukraine's president for not seeking dialogue with Russia. Absolutely valid at this point. What does Ukraine think they're going to win their land back?

Like how is that even going to work at this point? Right? Like the war right now is just a life lost by the day thing. Signed an executive order promoting energy resource use [00:19:00] in Alaska. So good for it with it. I don't, Alaska is a big place. You're not going to like, what are you going to do? Make some fish go extinct.

Like I'll never understand the complaints about like oil pipelines in Alaska. It's like, yes. What, what do you want to put the oil on cars? Cause that's what it's going on now. That is way worse for the environment.

Simone Collins: Yeah, but I mean, well,

when I was a kid and I heard about oil pipelines, in a negative light, of course, my assumption was there are these leaky pipes running through parks, you know, there's like, just like pools of oil around them. Little, little did I know that these are very sophisticated systems with very, very strong and smart leak detection sensors, so that instantly They don't want to lose the

Malcolm Collins: oil!

Simone Collins: No, the oil is expensive, but also like they're legally required to be extremely careful about environmental impact. And yeah, it's a lot less, the carbon footprint of oil that has been moved along in a pipeline is a lot lower than [00:20:00] oil that has been moved along by a truck. And, you know, the, the accident danger, it's, it's, it's also scary.

I mean, you and I, whenever we're on a road and we see a giant oil tanker going around. Yeah, there's also a potential cost to human life from trucks. Yes, it's a giant bomb moving around. It's nuts.

Malcolm Collins: The people who are against this are just that category of Democrat who just does not care about reality. They, they only want to win their aesthetic fights and they don't care about the damage they're doing to the environment.

Because I don't even think the Democrats are the party of the environment anymore. Like, Republicans are the party of like actual environmentalism now. But haven't they been, you know, since Teddy Roosevelt, right?

So I was looking for a Captain Planet clip that involved oil to somehow work into this and then I found this horrifying Captain Planet clip I am compelled to share with you.

I just don't get why people bring kids into the world when they can't provide for them. Although population numbers in less developed nations may be greater, a child in a developed country [00:21:00] uses up to 30 times more resources than a child in a less developed nation. That is amazing. It seems unfair.

Wheeler, you and Linka have too many kids. It must stop, if we ever were to get married. What? How many kids would you want to have? Why? Because I definitely don't want more than two.

Malcolm Collins: But anyway they revoked the ban on oil and gas development in federal waters because why would we be against that?

Like we, we need to exploit those resources. One of the most important things to geopolitical global stability has been our oil recently. That's why the Russia oil ban cutoff was possible at all was because of the amount of oil that the U S is producing now. And, and who does it hurt when we produce more oil?

It hurts the Middle Eastern countries. It hurts Russia. It hurts Venezuela. No good guys are hurt in the process of the making of this [00:22:00] product. They streamline permitting for energy projects and reviewing regulations on energy production. Temporary withdraws all areas of the outer coastal shelf from consideration , offshore wind leasing and halts the insurance of new renewable options, permit leases and loans for both offshore and onshore wind projects.

I am a hundred percent about this wind project stuff. When projects are in, like, if you can make them cash positive, go for it. But offshore wind things like this is just pointless. Go nuclear. What are you doing? Thoughts on wind stuff, Simone, the little bird blenders.

Simone Collins: I mean, it's, it's cool, but it's not the most effective thing we can be doing.

So from a cost effectiveness standpoint, it's just a lot harder to justify things like offshore wind farms. Very, very expensive to develop.

Malcolm Collins: So now to other things, he did the hiring freeze. He then goes to everyone and he goes, Hey, I'll pay you till September. So what is that like eight months? [00:23:00] Yeah, and he says if you decide to resign now, I can't promise your job will still be here then but You know if you want to keep your job, we are trying to close down a lot of departments right now We have finally instituted the schedule f program Which the Biden administration shut through it down before it could be fully implemented, which thank God it's finally here now.

So if you don't know what Schedule F is, it recategorizes some federal jobs as at will employment, which we absolutely need to do. We're going to do another episode after this one on just how bad the deep state has gotten. That will chill you to the bone. The government. Needs to be gutted. It needs to be gutted like Twitter was gutted, okay?

Everyone, remember when everyone was like, Oh, the Twitter, you can't fire 98 percent of people, it'll stop working! And now everyone's like, eh, it's actually kind of better than it's ever been. Yeah. That's, that's what we need here, okay? And people are like, no, it's not better than it's ever been.

It's like, ah, the community [00:24:00] notes feature is definitely better. And I remember some downtime early on. I haven't heard of downtime on Twitter in a long time.

Simone Collins: No, absolutely not. Yeah, no, it's, it's fine.

Malcolm Collins: It didn't need those people. They just sabotaged X when they left removing parts of the code base, which is what caused that downtime.

It wasn't due to the lack of staff. It was

Simone Collins: active sabotage. Oh my gosh.

Malcolm Collins: I

Simone Collins: didn't know that. That's crazy. Yeah.

Malcolm Collins: They, they, they, they didn't have documentation on things or they took the documentation they had and they, they left parts of the code base like basically really vulnerable. Some of them, it looks like may have actively attacked the code base after leaving.

So, yeah, it was, it was ridiculous, and we'll see this with the government when we get rid of 98%, which is what I'm hoping for here, okay, buddy? I love, they keep trying to drive a wedge between Trump and Elon, if you've seen it, with all of these things and it doesn't appear to be working at all. He reversed the binary protections on transgender individuals in the military and he did this. I love it. If you [00:25:00] read the order, it says, because I almost swear somebody must watch our podcast. It said, because being transgender is incompatible with the selfless, disexpected of a military professional.

And that's so funny.

Simone Collins: I mean, as

Malcolm Collins: we said on this podcast, you know, the, the, the biggest complaint we have against transgenderism outside of the increased risk in an aliving oneself that comes with a belief system that doesn't have any correlatory in any other culture in human history. So it's very clearly a culturally tied phenomenon.

Yes, there are different gender expressions, but there is no example anywhere of a sudden obsession or not even sudden, but an obsession at all with people seeing you as a different gender. Sure. And, and then being willing to unalive yourself or threatening to unalive yourself that people don't see yourself at the different gender.

This is not a thing. So like, obviously, right.

So this is a memetic virus and not a natural part of the human condition, specifically this obsession with your gender and wanting to unalive yourself if people don't affirm that gender.

And [00:26:00] once you have caught this memetic contagion, you have a 50 percent chance of attempting to unalive yourself. That's a huge deal. Like, I don't understand how people can be like, Oh, this is a completely benign thing, or like, just let them think what they want to think about themselves. It's like, well, it appears to be a completely culturally isolated contagion, and it's correlated with a 50 percent chance of not wanting to be alive anymore.

Of course I'm going to have concerns about this spreading.

But this obsession was validation. I mean, we all want validation, right? And these people basically found a hack to force the community to validate them. And they undergo enormous financial emotional costs to achieve this validation, but I see that as a sign.

These individuals fundamentally haven't dedicated their lives to other people, but have lives dedicated to the way other people see that just because of the cost involved in it, the way things work right now. And then he also was talking about deployment. He's like, look,

the government's going to pay for this surgery. Then it's eight months [00:27:00] to recover from it. And we already have this giant problem with people saying, Oh, I can't deploy because of medical reasons. Which apparently a big problem in the military right now, if you have all of these, you know, medical surgeries are, is that not going to be even more plausible and you're not going to see even a higher rate of that.

And keep in mind. This only makes up 0. 1 percent of our military. So again, I don't see what's like why we're trying to prevent this. It does seem fundamentally incompatible with, again, to not say, yes, I understand I would prefer people seeming at the other gender. Yes, I would prefer but I don't need to undergo all of these costs.

I don't need to force it by the government to pay all these costs. I don't need to force everyone to against their consent. See me a certain way. Validate me a certain way. You know, I think, Simone, what you said that was so good is the difference between gay rights is gay rights is saying I want the right to be able to get married and act in a way that just doesn't feel unnatural for me, [00:28:00] whereas transgenderism is I want to what they're fighting for now is I want to be able to force you using law and legal statute to act in a way that feels uncomfortable to you.

And this is a gendering. This is a, and I think that that's just like, yeah, this is, this is clearly a lack of selflessness that would lead anyone to think that this is normal behavior. And then we saw that at the highest levels of the military under Biden with the you know, the, the generals and stuff like that.

Thoughts on this before we go further.

Simone Collins: No, I'm just glad we're seeing so much pushback already from the Trump administration on all these things.

Malcolm Collins: And I note here, you could be a trans, you could be a transgender individual and be a good person. You could be a Scientologist and a good person, but I don't want Scientologists at the top level of the military, right? But the point being is, is if you know Scientologists and I know Scientologists, they are perfectly nice people.

I am still deeply suspicious of them and their motivations when I'm interacting with them. It's the same with transgender individuals. I think that [00:29:00] they're very nice people. I don't think it's their fault that they got sucked into this ideology. , and I feel really, really bad for them, but we have to think about the people it hurts next, you know, and we need to think about.

Where are their motivations and loyalty? And what have they signaled through costly signaling about the way they've chosen to live their lives?

I'd also note here that Trunk struck a significant blow to transgender surgery for children, specifically in the order protecting children from chemical and surgical mutilation. Specifically, what this did is it prevents federal funding, sponsorship, promotion, or assistance for gender transition procedures.

It limits these to 19 years old. So you have to be over 19 years old for this to be relevant. So keep in mind, he's still allowing federal funding for transgender procedures over 19 years old. Like people who act like he's like radically anti trans are just delusional. , he's not like trying to even not [00:30:00] erase trans people or stop transgender surgery.

He's just saying, wait until you're old enough to make, you know, the decision to get a tattoo. , the order targets puberty blockers, hormone therapy, surgical procedures, and related gender transition , it attacks, , federal health programs including Medicare, Medicaid, and TRICARE for military families that are to exclude coverage for gender affirming care for minors.

, and , federal agencies are instructed to ensure that recipients of research or education grants do not provide gender Procedures to minors. This is gonna be a big problem for universities that are all in on this stuff.

The order mandates a review of guidelines from World Professional Association for Transgender Health, WPATH, which it dismisses as quote unquote junk science, which we now know it is because we have the WPATH leaks. And we know that they were just lying. Lying, and like, why, why have every country thrown this out?

And I'd add to the thing we're talking about trans people earlier. I I'd note here like especially with trans youth we now know from the gender disconnectedness and non conforming news 2023 study that more than nine out of ten trans [00:31:00] people at the age of 11 identify with their birth gender by age 23 This this this thing is just a fad that people end up long term identifying with if it is affirmed in them.

That's that's the core thing that that it's the problem. It's the affirmation and and unfortunately this sucks for individuals who bought into this and now have trouble disassociating themselves with this new identity and the affirmation they're getting from it.

Simone Collins: But

Malcolm Collins: it's killing people, you know, and there's nothing, there's nothing, you know, we need to at some point say, well, yes, I understand you leper, like, I have nothing against you, but you're still infectious, right?

Like, You're killing people at this point and, and, and you deserve to be loved in your leopard colony, but we need to try to save as many humans as possible at this point, right? And, and if it's causing this level of mental distress, and yet it does not appear to be a, it appears to be a very transitory, very non permanent thing when it's not being affirmed That, to me, just leaves me with very few options.

The next is we have [00:32:00] the, steps to dismantle diversity. Oh, we'll get to that next. He rescinded policies requiring federal contractors to promote affirmative action or diversity programs.

And then also it put like a spending ban on everything that was going to DEI programs, anything that was promoting abortion, anything that was promoting you know, any of these, these, and

Simone Collins: I don't know. He put a, he put a spending freeze on all federal grant programs, period, to make sure that they were devoid of those things before receiving our money.

Malcolm Collins: But he's, he's, he's, he's done more than that. So he, in the executive order, Trump signed terminating DEI programs and policies and activities within, sorry

With the

Simone Collins: exception of Medicaid, which is still up and running but other, other grant programs.

Malcolm Collins: So the administration, as it has shut down these DEI programs, has moved to merit based systems, quote, ones that work on individual initiative, skills, performance, hard work, over diversity, considering in, uh, publications Agencies are required to compile a [00:33:00] list of all the contractors and grantees involved in DEI activities since 2021.

Oh, you know, they're going to drag their legs and try to burn those records. These lists will inform recommendations. So they're basically, and people have been freaking out about this because a lot of these DEIers, they've been quote unquote, put on lists. If you look at their YouTubes and stuff like that, they are.

panicking. They are losing their jobs. They are already because this has hit hard and fast and I think a lot faster than any of them really anticipated this hitting them. They have been attempting to find ways to rename their programs, which has been a common thing or rename their positions as we have seen a number of times.

I have mentioned in another episode that it's going to go live after this, where I think that the way to handle this is to put out a tips program. And the tips program works like this because, you know, Jim's are going to try to flood it. Anyone who has given a good tip and you might even be able to get your tip like boosted.

By connections to [00:34:00] certain like known people. So what the government might do is go out and sort of anoint people as vetters. So this could be like libs of tick tock. This could be like, you know, various people like this, right? Like well known Cremieux or us or any other number of accounts that are out there.

You can even have like a Joe Rogan water, but basically various intermediate influencer accounts, right? So these intermediate invalids are accounts to prevent the Dems from flooding. It can upvote or downvote things as soon as one goes through. If it is a good lead, it ends up in something being done.

They get flagged and anything they sent immediately goes to the top of the pile. And so this creates a system that Democrats can't easily. Impede, but it creates a distributed network out to the average American where when you see D. E. I. Being done in some company that's getting federal grants or some company that's a federal contractor, which I think is what they should be focused on next.

You know, you. Can easily whistle blow on this especially if it's under a different [00:35:00] name And I think the other thing they did that is really really smart is compile lists and I would go further I think all of these lists need to be made public So any company that wants to be anti dei can look to find any of these companies any of these individuals being hired People need to know that if they were involved in this racist This grift, this sexist grift, this modern Jim Crow itization, that they will face punishment.

That they will face long term ramifications for their institutionalization of racism within America.

Thoughts, Simone?

Simone Collins: Yeah, my biggest concern, because we actually saw a lot of the preemptive naming even before inauguration of various teams, is that we might see a ton of circumvention on this front. And that's, that's something I'm a little bit concerned about.

I, I really, and honestly, [00:36:00] political witch hunts, I'm not that interested in them. I'm more just interested in if someone's not helping to move things forward, why are they there in the first place?

Malcolm Collins: I disagree. We need a witch hunt on this because these are witches. They are spreading a dark and, and, and racist ideology throughout the bureaucratic parts of American society.

And we, as I said, I think the best way to fight this is for 4chan to unholster their autism and go full hog on this.

Simone Collins: Maybe, yeah, maybe that's what needs to happen. I mean, I'm much more interested in, like, actually having people in the federal government do work. I'm actually interested in, like, you know, getting rid of bureaucratic layers of Nonsense.

In addition to, of course, actively hostile agents for sure. But I think that we're, we're seeing that we're seeing that with the hiring freeze, we're seeing that with like the OMB is coming in. The office of budget is coming in strong. And I, I really think that this time around they are going to get so much done.

Already they've been very excited. I'm so

Malcolm Collins: excited for the OMB this time. [00:37:00] Yeah. So, If you're thinking about the private sector, you're like, okay, but this is only going to affect the government sector. So while the administration cannot mandate private companies to abandon their DEI policies, the executive order encourages them to do so by framing such policies as potentially violating federal rights laws.

The order directs the attorney general to explore enforcement methods against companies engaging in illegal discrimination through D. E. I. Practices framing D. E. I. Is illegal. The order characterizes. Okay, then threats of investigations. The attorney general is directed to identify up to 9 potential civil compliance investigation target.

at large companies, non profits, and educational institutions. What a great, be specific! I want nine large examples made. That's gonna create a chilling effect. Way to go, Trump! Create uncertainty. The order's vague language about illegal DEI has led companies to seek counsel and review their DEI policies.

Oh! [00:38:00] Oh, chilling effect. The threat of being a target has caused some companies to preemptively scale back into EI initiatives. I mean, the big one we need to get is Google. I want Google to erase all of this. They have shown through their AI and everything like that. Google should be one of America's true champions.

It should be our. Fight and and and bulwark against the evils of china and russia and all of the various Technological competitors we have on the world stage And yet when you look at its idiotic ai that it keeps putting out that it's been systemically racist. You know inserting black people into pictures of history and everything like that like uh, if it did that for any other ethnicity people would be like wow, this is like Created by a racist totalitarian state.

Simone Collins: Yeah, I think the thesis of Richard Hanania's book about wokeism is that it emanated from the government. And I don't think you and I really agree that much [00:39:00] with that thesis. I mean, yeah, things happened within the government that had influence, but it was more of a cultural shift. Still, it is interesting to see that already this new administration has had this profound of an impact.

On the private sector.

Yes.

I mean, just from the people who showed up on inauguration day to the organizational shifts, we're already starting to see, it's clear that people are following the lead of the U. S. government, which I don't know, from like an operational standpoint is not something I'm used to seeing.

Malcolm Collins: Yes. And I think that the next thing that we should seriously consider is well, you know, it's funny when you watch the mass deportations and everything like this, one of the things I'm seeing now, people, people in the UK, they're like, wait. Can we do this? People in Canada are like, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

This was an option. Can we, can we look at implementing a little bit of this as well? I think around the world, what we're seeing is a, Oh, Oh yeah, [00:40:00] maybe we should look into this a little bit. And I think if they don't, what we're going to see in, in Canada and stuff like this, yes, people will be fleeing out of the U S, but a lot of them are going to be fleeing into Canada.

We see

Simone Collins: illegal

Malcolm Collins: immigrants beginning. Well, because you got places like New York right now that are like tightening down on everything. And, and they're actually dealing with massive immigrant outflows right now because they have learned that you know, maybe we shouldn't be acting as a safe haven for criminals.

And then especially

Simone Collins: with their current spending problems, it's worrisome.

Malcolm Collins: Yeah. You know, they're looking at a state collapse. And as I mentioned in a previous episode, one of the things the U. S. should do, because this was talked about in the previous episode, I really think it's a good idea is the U.

S. Should go to Alberta and say, Hey, why don't you guys do a referendum on who wants to join the U. S. And if we can get an overwhelming referendum in Alberta You have two things. First, the Canadian government's going to freak out because they've been milking Alberta of all their money. Like, Alberta basically [00:41:00] supports the rest of Canada at this point.

Alberta hates the way Canada is being run. They're basically treated like a surf class by the rest of the country forced to make money. I mean, Canada is like these little places that are like the capital in the Hunger Games. And then Alberta that's actually producing all of their money and food and energy.

That's, that's like, oh, well, those hick people, you know. I've always joked, it's not a surprise that the trans crowd literally dresses like they're from the Capitol in the Hunger Games. Like, it is, you can't be pro this class and pro the working man, you know, you gotta choose one, are you for the oppressor or for the oppressed, you know?

But anyway so you, you get these, this Alberta, and if you could get Alberta voting, let's say, like, 70%. Or something like that. I think we could to join the U. S. You have a great casabelly to move troops in there. And I think that what you might be able to negotiate as a trump is a payout for it.

It would probably be a decent payout, but I think that [00:42:00] Canada would have a really hard time if you're offering both money. The people of the district don't want to be part of Canada anymore. You've already moved, you know, troops into the district. Mhm. I think it'd be really hard for Canada to push against it at this point, especially when, you know, you point out the crimes that the Canadian government is being is allowing to happen there.

When you point out the scale of the injustice that the Canadian government continues to allow to be purported against its own citizens. And the Canada doesn't really have a future of anything. contiguous was what it used to be. I mean, everybody sees it's a small chunk like Alberta. Most might, but most of it doesn't.

And, and this is why the unaliving rates are so high in Canada right now. It's because nobody sees a future with the existing regime. And I think that what could be a bigger wake up call than when, when they see, and at the very least, if you did this. If they didn't end up moving into the United States, what you're going to see in the next election cycle is people being like, Hey, like, we actually need to treat our conservative seriously [00:43:00] because they don't want to be here anymore.

Simone Collins: Yeah. Yeah. Well, I think in the future, you know, maybe not immediately, immediately that we're already starting to see it as more and more capital flight. As people become less anchored to geographical areas, so it's just going to accelerate the decline. There are so many factors that will make civilization and governmental declines happen so much faster than anyone thinks.

Like, people expect, I think, for there to be multiple warning signs, when instead, by the time you really realize it's happening, it's already too late. Yeah,

Malcolm Collins: no, absolutely.

Anyway so what do you want to do for dinner tonight? Simone, am I going to reheat that chicken I had the other day? Or that's probably bad at this point.

Simone Collins: I probably wouldn't have it. Okay,

Malcolm Collins: then, let's go for you like chicken

Simone Collins: curry? Do

Malcolm Collins: you prefer

Simone Collins: chicken curry, or do you want air fryer chicken?

Malcolm Collins: Air fryer chicken.

Okay, you're gonna cook chicken tonight, right?

Simone Collins: Not [00:44:00] Fresh. Oh, I tried to thaw some out. So maybe I can I it depends on what the status of the chicken I'm trying to thaw out is. Yeah, I thought you were

Malcolm Collins: thawing some out.

Simone Collins: I was but every time I check on it, it's still like ice cube stage. So I don't know what's going on there.

That might actually make it easier for me to read it, depending on just how frozen it is. But if it is frozen, then I need to reheat. If it is not, then I will do something else. Does that work for you? By

Malcolm Collins: the way, that works for me. Those are wondering, we've been, our entire family has been out with the flu for about a week.

We haven't been this sick since we got married, I, I think not at the same time. Yeah. And it's been really difficult for us. And that's why my cheek's all puffy and everything. We don't know what's causing this. It could be an abscess. It could be a. Months, it could be any number of things. At first I thought it was swollen lymph nodes, but we don't know now.

Simone Collins: Yeah, but we'll get

Malcolm Collins: better. Yeah. And people are like, wait, why are you [00:45:00] producing videos instead of recovering? It's like we spent a week recovering going through our backlog. You think we still had Christmas decorations behind us? Like

Simone Collins: It's been tough.

Malcolm Collins: Anyway. I love you to death, Simone.

Simone Collins: I love you too, Malcolm.

You're amazing.

Malcolm Collins: You're amazing. We'll get through this. Oh, I hope.

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Speaker 37: They lecture loud with more all might than pity crooks who love to fight. They say communities, they prize while turning blind and shutting eyes. If you point out the harm they do. It's you they'll call the bigot, too. Why are them so, so consistently evil? You can't both care for the great and the weevil.

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the border agape, It's those in shelters that bear the [00:47:00] rape. They claim compassion's now at stake, Push on the phone. So let them rant, let banners fly, we'll sigh and ask the reason why. Fritzing wolves while flaying sheep, the far left tomb they love to keep. Why are them snokes so consistently evil? You can't both care for the grain and the weevil.

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