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“Spies: The Epic Intelligence War Between East vs. West” – with Calder Walton

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The Rise and Fall of the Soviet Union

The West dials back on the aggressiveness of their espionage with regards to their focus towards the Soviet Union and then later Russia, that's actually when the Soviet Union struck. It's not like the West dials it back and they dial it back, they just see that as an opportunity to dial it up. I'm afraid that looking at this long history of easing relations between East and West, but a continuation of the intelligence war that was going on silently, largely from Russia against Western powers. My conclusion, unfortunately, Andrew, is that we have not so much a Putin problem today, but a Russia problem. And the Russia problem has been persistent over this hundred years."

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