Obar: Businesses are hard, like, it requires a huge amount of training. The holy grail is to do something that not only makes money, but also gives you an excuse and maybe a kick ong the ass till i o do more of it. Most of our episodes will be just the two of us. We've done, i think now two with me in channing and then two with guests. And we did one with daniel vasalo and harvard call last week.