Nobody that’s been married will deny that it’s difficult. When we get together with another person, we’re faced with communication breakdowns, different cultural backgrounds, opposing value systems, and worst of all, having a mirror that shows us the messiness of our own heart. Though it’s tough, with a few keys, it can be a liberating experience for both parties.

In this episode, long time friends Pietze and Johnny join Justin and Abi to discuss the ways taking personal ownership has been a game changer in their relationships. They talk about the hurdles they’ve had to overcome in order to be honest with themselves and each other and they open up vulnerably about the ways they’ve hurt one another.

If you’re needing some perspective on how to win at marriage or could use some hope on how to navigate the choppy waters of any relationship, this episode is perfect for you.

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