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382: ‘What’s Happening‽’, With Craig Hockenberry

The Talk Show With John Gruber

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The Wounds Are Over

"I feel like what happened, the profanity is pretty low. There was a there was a yeah." "It's surprising how extreme it's gotten," he says of his situation with Apple podcasts. "The thing that we love is in danger". He credits Christian Celigon for helping him get through this difficult time.

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