Working Mums

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i really identify with this woman's situation, i have small children at home myself. I think that as long as she goes in with a strong point of view, she's able to demonstrate her value. She makes the point that working mums are often o the most efficient employeesa and then she also has a flexible attitude about whether it is four days a week or moreflexible schedule they want. You all have talked about this a lot already on the podcast. There is a motherhood penalty. For being a mam, you will be paid less, not just than men, but paid less than other women who don't have children, or don't have childcare responsibility. Yes.

Don’t negotiate against yourself. It’s OK to drop the ball. Sleep. We get wisdom from women who are experts on how we work — and who have advice on how to ask for more money, achieve more by doing less, and avoid burning out.

We talk with Duke University management professor Ashleigh Shelby Rosette about negotiating, Thrive Global CEO Arianna Huffington about sleep, Levo Chief Leadership Officer Tiffany Dufu about dropping the ball, and New Yorker writer Susan Orlean about confidence. Then HBR senior editor Alison Beard teams up with Amy to answer a few of your questions about work.

Our HBR reading list:

“Nice Girls Don’t Ask” by Linda Babcock, Sara Laschever, Michele Gelfand, Deborah Small

“Can an Agentic Black Woman Get Ahead? The Impact of Race and Interpersonal Dominance on Perceptions of Female Leaders” by Robert W. Livingston, Ashleigh Shelby Rosette, and Ella F. Washington

HBR Guide to Negotiating by Jeff Weiss

“How to Keep Email from Ruining Your Vacation” by Arianna Huffington

“Connect, Then Lead” by Amy J.C. Cuddy, Matthew Kohut, and John Neffinger

“Women, Find Your Voice” by Kathryn Heath, Jill Flynn, and Mary Davis Holt

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