Shruti Athapati means a presumption based on Upanishads. That will not work against the Buddhist, for example. You can't argue from Upanishads or Gita, you have to argue through just reason and logic. What do we do? Ahmidam, mamidam, iti, nysar gikho, am loak of Yavahara. There is a natural worldly existence, activities. I am this, this is mind, I am this body,. I am this person, this body is mind, this possessions are mind, this house is mind, these relatives are mind. This curious mixture of reality and unreality. Just like

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