Speculative Programming

The first line of code that ever touched, just like many people, word base. The second linicot that ever touched was in lotus notes,. So i was doing lotus notes things. Then i started to get, when i got to college, i started to do things tha. I started ian exposure to assembly and sea and a, all those types of things. And then the open sorce world opened up. And i started doing things like pearl as an example. Ye, i don't really know, lotus notes, but my, my impression of it is that within enterprises, it was kind of transformative.