The Importance of Educating the Public

I think it's three tiers. Politicians have to be willing to take these kind of numbers, as the Germans would say, 'take them in your mouth' Communicators, people in the public sphere, they need to stop panicking when these kinds of numbers are raised. And voters need to demand it. We need to unfetter this conversation and shift the over-driven window. That's what I'm talking about. The world is radical and huge and this problem is urgent, and that's what it means.