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Michael hendrik, senior fellow and director of state local policy at the manhattan institute. Harvey mansfield, junior professor of government at harvard university who has taught since 19 62. We discussed what all of us can learn from tockville, the thinker on which hervey is especially renowned as a translator and interpreter. And now the good fight with yasha monk.

Harvey Mansfield is the William R. Kenan, Jr. Professor of Government at Harvard University and a senior fellow at the Hoover Institution. One of the old guard of American conservative thought, he has taught at Harvard since 1962, and counts among his former students Andrew Sullivan, Francis Fukuyama, and Bill Kristol.

In this week’s conversation, Harvey Mansfield and Yascha Mounk discuss the nature of American liberalism, Donald Trump’s effect on conservatism, and Alexis de Tocqueville’s enduring relevance.

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