"He just got o he wore me down. Ye push over," she says of her fiance, who was 15 years older and coming out of a divorce when they met. "i think putting the stamp of this is my fiancee was basically a official way of saying, you you mean to take this woman seriously." She adds that marriage feels like 'a laughable folly compared to the commitment of having a child'
On this podcast Debbie talks to Amanda Palmer about her wild and wandering path to the rock stage, and about how behind her artistic ambition is the drive to feel real.