I think that is part of it. I mean bureaucracy should not be underplayed here as having a role. And even though the bureaucracy in principle is treating people fairly, somehow being treated is exactly the same. We've got so many regulations that have divided the bureaucracy. It seems like there's something completely legitimate about people's feelings that the government is not responsive to their needs.

Get the Snipd
podcast app

Unlock the knowledge in podcasts with the podcast player of the future.
App store bannerPlay store banner

AI-powered
podcast player

Listen to all your favourite podcasts with AI-powered features

Discover
highlights

Listen to the best highlights from the podcasts you love and dive into the full episode

Save any
moment

Hear something you like? Tap your headphones to save it with AI-generated key takeaways

Share
& Export

Send highlights to Twitter, WhatsApp or export them to Notion, Readwise & more

AI-powered
podcast player

Listen to all your favourite podcasts with AI-powered features

Discover
highlights

Listen to the best highlights from the podcasts you love and dive into the full episode