It was tough thankfully we moved to Tucson and not like a place like New York where a cost of legal was pretty cheap you know they ran the non-profit that at some point they went back to college and got different like student grants for working part-time but I think they really struggled you know and it was very difficult. More than anything it taught me brother and I like a big lesson and like perseverance and just even picking up everything one thing that he'll mention quickly is essentially so you have a month to leave or something like that.

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