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Jonathan Martin and Alex Burns on ‘This Will Not Pass’

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I Think It's a Challenge for Us to Speak Plainly About Who He Is

i think we're very conscious of the fact that almost half the country voted for donald trump twice, but that doesn't sort of absolve us of the responsibility to speak plainly about who he is. I mean, if you look at some of the stuff that he's done over the past couple of years, having sought help from american enemies to win an election,. He extorted, attempted to extort american allies. He tried to run a black man in 20 20 to ciphen off black votes. He embraced insane conspiracis theories. Tried after the fact to intimidate pole workers. Called e secret of state and basically asked him to cheat. It's crazy,

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