
Up the Down Podcast
The Commentary Magazine Podcast
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The Oddest Place You've Got Lucky?
"If you had asked me a year before I went to Disney what my vision of hell was, it was Disney World. Crowds, noise, lines, crying kids, 10,000 people on jazzy's," he says. "It's one of the few things that suggests that people can change in their 40s because I don't even really like rollercoaster."
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