Is It a Data Collection or an Advertising Business Model?

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It's fascinating though right to think about we've essentially built this infrastructure that at its core or at least one of its key aspects is about collecting all this data on us. Even a lot of the companies that tell us they're about something else but have a huge and growing advertising segment as well. I think just the fact that they are doing these things is something good to sell right and it does plug in and there's a huge market for it. The way these industries organize is kind of ridiculous like it's so big and messy.

Paris Marx is joined by Daniel Joseph to discuss why advertising is central not just to the tech economy, but modern capitalism itself, and how the business models of companies are increasing shaped by serving ads and collecting data to inform them.

Daniel Joseph is a Senior Lecturer of Digital Sociology at Manchester Metropolitan University. He’s also written for a number of publications, including Briarpatch Magazine, Motherboard, and Real Life Magazine. Follow Daniel on Twitter at @DanjoKaz00ie.

Tech Won’t Save Us offers a critical perspective on tech, its worldview, and wider society with the goal of inspiring people to demand better tech and a better world. Follow the podcast (@techwontsaveus) and host Paris Marx (@parismarx) on Twitter, and support the show on Patreon.

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