Episode 40: Jonny Wilkinson
Rupert Spira Podcast
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What Is Enlightenment?
I was interested in these matters from quite an early age, from my mid teens onwards. But like many people, i misunderstood what was being spoken of. So i spent 20 years really striving to have this experiencefat as you said, lureon to transform yourself into a different kind of self. And and of course, it was frustrating project. It wasn't until i was maybe 20 years, after 20 years, that my understanding began to change. What is referred to as enlightenment or awakening is not an exotic experience. In fact, itis not an experience at all. It's just the ordinary, intimate, familiar self that everybody already is before it is qualified by experiences. That was really
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