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Erik Torenberg: Upstream of the Revolution

From the New World

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The Importance of Curtis

I think Curtis has drastically cleaned up his image and I think he's done a fantastic job in the past like a couple years. So, so he's changed things for himself. He's not courting controversy in the same way that he was perhaps in the past decade. But I think I think you see you do see a new tech right. It doesn't use the words right and it shouldn't. And it doesn't it truly is not, you know, there it's not right-wing in the sense of being pro choice or pro gay marriage.

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