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Twenty Years of Terror (w/ Spencer Ackerman)

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The War on Terror - A Book Review

Spencer: I want to point out a few of the arguments you make that kind of get us moving toward trump. But i i thought the way you kind of at the very beginning of the book showed that it was kind of doomed to fail because of the way it was framed from the start. And then that doomed to failure aspect of it means when trump comes along, there's real grievances that he can rail against but he's also playing off the kind of basic script that has been there all along. That civilizational subtext is so right.

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