i think there's tons of lithium in the earth's crust, you know, it's quite prevalent. The whole industry to go from searching for it to developing it, refining it needs to scale. Ah, but even as you do that, you kind of start to cut environmental corners and push into more sensitive areas. So there's no free lunch there.
In a short news segment, Jason talks about a company that tried to sell "fantasy startup investing" NFTs and why they had to pivot (1:44). Jason gives a brief tribute to Steve Jobs (15:48). Then, he's joined by JB Straubel, Tesla's longtime CTO who stepped down in 2019 to found a new lithium-ion battery recycling company, Redwood Materials(22:08). JB and Jason discuss the early launches and setbacks at Tesla, overcoming challenges, and the possibilities created by battery recycling. To close out the show, we play a clip of Steve Job's 2005 Stanford Commencement Address (1:20:15).