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This week, editors Peter Suderman, Katherine Mangu-Ward, and Nick Gillespie are joined by Reason reporter Eric Boehm to discuss the political fallout from President Donald Trump's immigration raids and deployment of the National Guard to riots in Los Angeles. They also cover last week's feud between Trump and Elon Musk over the GOP's mega spending bill. Finally, they examine the evolving role of drone warfare, particularly in Ukraine, while expressing concerns about technological militarization.

0:00—Protests over illegal immigration in L.A.

6:08—Trump and California Gov. Gavin Newsom are "too happy" about the protests in L.A.

9:03—U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement is rounding up immigrants who are working in jobs and contributing to society.

11:04—The importance of "rule of law"

18:24—Is it OK to call in the National Guard to handle protests in L.A.?

21:12—The big, beautiful breakup between Musk and Trump

27:00—An important moment for debts and deficits

34:19—Markets for the win

38:07—Listener question: Should we sunset older laws to stop lawmakers from using obscure laws today?

44:18—Drone strikes increase in the war between Russia and Ukraine

55:08—Weekly cultural recommendations

Mentioned in this podcast:

"Americans' Views of Deportations," by Luis Noe-Bustamante and Jens Manuel Krogstad

"Migrant Arrests at US-Mexico Border Near Record Low in February," by Ted Hesson and Kristina Cooke

"Full List of Republicans Who Voted Against Trump's 'Big, Beautiful Bill'," by Sonam Sheth

"Full List of Senate Republicans Who Might Vote Against Trump's Tax Bill," by James Bickerton

"Ukraine Changes the Face of War Forever," by Nick Gillespie and Regan Taylor

Upcoming Reason events:

• Reason Versus debate: Jacob Sullum and Billy Binion vs. Charles Fain Lehman and Rafael Mangual, June 24
• Reason Speakeasy: Nick Gillespie and Elizabeth Nolan Brown on the MAHA Movement, June 25
• The Reason Roundtable Live in NYC! July 15

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