When we first saw on sunrise, we were very clear that the structure of our movement needed to have both unity and autonomy. And what we found, i think, through the first iteration of our structure, was that if you only set people up to run with the dna, and you don't develop them as leaders, you actually enable neither full autonomy nor full unity. So i actually think that interventions like democracy are really key for successful movements who are trying to be more than the sum of their parts.

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