Jesse Michels is a YouTuber and show host, exploring subjects like UFOs, consciousness, and reality.

For nearly a century, UFOs have captured our imagination as one of humanity’s greatest mysteries. Are they secret technology, alien visitors, or something else entirely? Who is behind them, what has been concealed, and what has been revealed about them? After decades of unanswered questions, are we any closer to uncovering the truth about these unknown objects in the sky?

Expect to learn why learning about UFOs is maladaptive to some people, how we know if UFOs are real or just a psy-op, if there are underground hidden bases with aliens scattered across the US, the connection with UFO sightings and nuclear sites, if UFOs might be just man made crafts or if there are other unknown technologies at play, if there is any evidence for antigravity currently and where it might come from, and much more…

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Timestamps:

(0:00) Why is an Interest in UFOs Maladaptive?

(1:36) What Does a Modern UFO Investigator Look Like?

(12:03) Why is There So Little Evidence of UFOs?

(20:24) How Do We Know UFOs Aren’t a PSYOP?

(27:47) Are UFOs a Global Phenomenon?

(29:28) The Threat of Nuclear Sites

(35:57) Why are Non-Human Intelligences on Earth?

(38:56) Nuclear Site Interference by UFOs

(46:56) Are the Department of Energy Involved?

(55:58) How Far Can Civilians Go With UFO Research?

(01:00:19) What Physics are Behind UFOs?

(01:10:36) Where are We Currently in Physics?

(01:16:25) Why Was Townsend Brown’s Experiment Never Replicated?

(01:23:01) Why are Renegade Scientists So Highly Criticised?

(01:37:02) Where Elon Musk is Going Wrong with Space Exploration

(01:43:15) Are We Heading Towards an AI Takeover?

(01:48:40) Assessing the Probabilities of Non-Human Intelligence

(01:53:23) Consciousness in Quantum Physics

(02:09:37) Find Out More About Jesse

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