As the leaker requested, a conversation on foreign interference
It's Political with Althia Raj
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The Importance of Intelligence in a Democracy
There can be lots of allegations but actually finding facts that you can use as evidence in a trial are often very hard to find. In some cases the kinds of investigations you have to do are basically counterintelligence investigations which mean they're hard time consuming. The people who give you the information may not be prepared to testify in a court, ever. So sometimes it's very hard to actually use the information you get. And I would add simply in the current case, the allegations of interference in our elections. Then if you look at the government testimony pretty carefully, they're saying pretty cautiously but pretty clearly that the global male and global have in fact got a lot of their facts wrong.
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