"It was going to happen at some point, no matter what," he says. "I mean, we can't go fast enough in terms of decarbonizing the world." If tessel had failed, it would have taken a lot longer than 20 years as planned, he adds. But founders plus technology can change the world, and you did -- so we're thankful for that.
In a short news segment, Jason talks about a company that tried to sell "fantasy startup investing" NFTs and why they had to pivot (1:44). Jason gives a brief tribute to Steve Jobs (15:48). Then, he's joined by JB Straubel, Tesla's longtime CTO who stepped down in 2019 to found a new lithium-ion battery recycling company, Redwood Materials(22:08). JB and Jason discuss the early launches and setbacks at Tesla, overcoming challenges, and the possibilities created by battery recycling. To close out the show, we play a clip of Steve Job's 2005 Stanford Commencement Address (1:20:15).