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Episode 469: George Saunders

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The Recession of the Self

"There's a recession of the self, i think, what we call the self," he says. "The story actually, past a certain point, has things it wants to do, and you didn't put em there." In those moments where you are genuinely helpful to someone in need, or when you've got something that feels true,  it just means there's less static,. like you're just bringing less, yes, static into your work.

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